Let's go back to April 2018 and Spotify had a Bootcamp opportunity. They were looking for women of color podcasters who were aspiring podcasters. So all you had to do is have an idea and identify as a woman of color. And you could win an opportunity to get a flight out to New York City and do a week-long boot camp with all these podcasting experts. And from those 10 one person would win $10,000.